Comments on: REDD project in Sumatra slammed by Friends of the Earth Indonesia and Australia http://www.redd-monitor.org/2010/03/11/redd-project-in-sumatra-slammed-by-friends-of-the-earth-indonesia-and-australia/ news, views and analysis about reduced emissions from deforestation and forest degradation Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:47:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: L. J. Trokan http://www.redd-monitor.org/2010/03/11/redd-project-in-sumatra-slammed-by-friends-of-the-earth-indonesia-and-australia/#comment-17069 L. J. Trokan Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:55:38 +0000 http://www.redd-monitor.org/?p=4301#comment-17069 We need to shut down the palm oil companies and other corporations pursuing destructive activities. To do so, how about allocating the money from the REDD project that would go into the same hands that are destroying the forests and give it to the government. Logic being that if the government had this compensation maybe they would not have to depend on outside corporations for tax revenue. We need to shut down the palm oil companies and other corporations pursuing destructive activities. To do so, how about allocating the money from the REDD project that would go into the same hands that are destroying the forests and give it to the government. Logic being that if the government had this compensation maybe they would not have to depend on outside corporations for tax revenue.

]]> By: Nenek Kincai http://www.redd-monitor.org/2010/03/11/redd-project-in-sumatra-slammed-by-friends-of-the-earth-indonesia-and-australia/#comment-16892 Nenek Kincai Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:20:39 +0000 http://www.redd-monitor.org/?p=4301#comment-16892 The last two points made by Chris Lang are (of course) entirely valid. Agree. That said, in the end, big pictures are made up of little pixels. If we can change even a few pixels at a time - with full, prior and informed consent of the traditional communities involved, lets do it. The last two points made by Chris Lang are (of course) entirely valid. Agree.
That said, in the end, big pictures are made up of little pixels. If we can change even a few pixels at a time – with full, prior and informed consent of the traditional communities involved, lets do it.

]]> By: Chris Lang http://www.redd-monitor.org/2010/03/11/redd-project-in-sumatra-slammed-by-friends-of-the-earth-indonesia-and-australia/#comment-16334 Chris Lang Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:27:20 +0000 http://www.redd-monitor.org/?p=4301#comment-16334 @Nenek Kincai - Thanks for this comment. The project proponents should also have talked to the Indigenous People in Jambi - before launching their REDD project. You may well be right that a "good and well designed" REDD project "has a potential to support sustainable use of forest and secure the rights of villagers". However, such a programme must obtain the free, prior and informed consent of local communities and Indigenous Peoples. I also think it's true that a project that sells carbon credits needs the free, prior and informed consent of the people living near the polluting coal-fired power station that will continue to pollute as a result of buying forest carbon from the REDD project. Another issue with this type of REDD project is that it may stop deforestation in the project area, but because it does nothing to address the underlying causes of deforestation, the palm oil and pulpwood companies will simply move somewhere else (possibly still in Jambi, or a neighbouring province) and continue their destructive activities there. @Nenek Kincai – Thanks for this comment. The project proponents should also have talked to the Indigenous People in Jambi – before launching their REDD project. You may well be right that a “good and well designed” REDD project “has a potential to support sustainable use of forest and secure the rights of villagers”. However, such a programme must obtain the free, prior and informed consent of local communities and Indigenous Peoples.

I also think it’s true that a project that sells carbon credits needs the free, prior and informed consent of the people living near the polluting coal-fired power station that will continue to pollute as a result of buying forest carbon from the REDD project.

Another issue with this type of REDD project is that it may stop deforestation in the project area, but because it does nothing to address the underlying causes of deforestation, the palm oil and pulpwood companies will simply move somewhere else (possibly still in Jambi, or a neighbouring province) and continue their destructive activities there.

]]> By: Rupert De Santos http://www.redd-monitor.org/2010/03/11/redd-project-in-sumatra-slammed-by-friends-of-the-earth-indonesia-and-australia/#comment-16269 Rupert De Santos Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:47:11 +0000 http://www.redd-monitor.org/?p=4301#comment-16269 Recently Climate Focus (carbon consultancy firm) and Jeff Hayward, Climate Initiative Manager at Rainforest Alliance hosted a press briefing at COP15 to promote and speed up forest carbon business transactions (now called "REDD") by training companies to "accurately" account for emission reductions. Potential clients of Climate Focus for Rainforest Alliance certifications as follow: ABN AMRO AES Carbon Exchange AGCert International Al Tayyar Energy Asia Green Capital Banque d'Affaires de Tunisie BASF BioCarbon Gestão Ambiental BioX Carbon BSH Bosch and Siemens Hausgeräte Bujugali Energy Limited Carbon International Compañía Cervecera de Nicaragua Core Carbon Group Credit Suisse D1 Oils Dong Energy EasyCarbon Ecoconsil Endesa EnD-I Ag Eneco Energy Trading Equator Environmental Essent Energgy Trading Ethos Investment Enviroserve Europe China Power Evolution Markets F&S Holding Factor CO2 First Climate Germany Forestal Santa Blanca Gas Natural Generadora Union GIRSA Global Climate Change Consultancy, Tsinghua University Holcim Group Support Hong Kong Stock Exchange Indian Acrylics Limited KfW Bankengruppe Lee International Leong Partnership Lighthouse Business Management Russia Mosgaz Mikro-Tek Nuon Rabobank International RenGen Energy Royal Haskoning Saint Gobain Oberland Santander Investment Sofreco Chemicals, Energy and Mines Statkraft Markets Sustainable Forest Management TNT Tú Transformas Union Fenosa Verdeo Group Vertis Environmental Finance Waterland Asia Bioventures Winrock International The "environmental record" of some of these companies is very objectional. More information about who is who in the corrupted forest carbon business soon. Recently Climate Focus (carbon consultancy firm) and Jeff Hayward, Climate Initiative Manager at Rainforest Alliance hosted a press briefing at COP15 to promote and speed up forest carbon business transactions (now called “REDD”) by training companies to “accurately” account for emission reductions. Potential clients of Climate Focus for Rainforest Alliance certifications as follow:
ABN AMRO
AES Carbon Exchange
AGCert International
Al Tayyar Energy
Asia Green Capital
Banque d’Affaires de Tunisie
BASF
BioCarbon Gestão Ambiental
BioX Carbon
BSH Bosch and Siemens Hausgeräte
Bujugali Energy Limited
Carbon International
Compañía Cervecera de Nicaragua
Core Carbon Group
Credit Suisse
D1 Oils
Dong Energy
EasyCarbon
Ecoconsil
Endesa
EnD-I Ag
Eneco Energy Trading
Equator Environmental
Essent Energgy Trading
Ethos Investment
Enviroserve
Europe China Power
Evolution Markets
F&S Holding
Factor CO2
First Climate Germany
Forestal Santa Blanca
Gas Natural
Generadora Union
GIRSA
Global Climate Change Consultancy, Tsinghua University
Holcim Group Support
Hong Kong Stock Exchange
Indian Acrylics Limited
KfW Bankengruppe
Lee International
Leong Partnership
Lighthouse Business Management Russia
Mosgaz
Mikro-Tek
Nuon
Rabobank International
RenGen Energy
Royal Haskoning
Saint Gobain Oberland
Santander Investment
Sofreco Chemicals, Energy and Mines
Statkraft Markets
Sustainable Forest Management
TNT
Tú Transformas
Union Fenosa
Verdeo Group
Vertis Environmental Finance
Waterland Asia Bioventures
Winrock International
The “environmental record” of some of these companies is very objectional.
More information about who is who in the corrupted forest carbon business soon.

]]> By: Rupert De Santos http://www.redd-monitor.org/2010/03/11/redd-project-in-sumatra-slammed-by-friends-of-the-earth-indonesia-and-australia/#comment-16078 Rupert De Santos Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:50:57 +0000 http://www.redd-monitor.org/?p=4301#comment-16078 It is time to identify all those who are working 24/7 to advertise, promote, trade cheap forest carbon credits helping polluters to avoid emissions reduction efforts. You will see them talking, giving keynotes, and presentation in all "expo carbon events" of REDD project shopping malls. I will start with the Aussie fellows: Brett Janissen, Executive Director, AETF Geoff Leeper, Deputy Secretary, Australian Climate Change Regulatory Authority (ACCRA) Group, Australian Government Ilona Millar, Senior Associate, Baker & McKenzie Richard Doyle, Division Director, Macquarie Bank Martijn Wilder, Partner, Baker & McKenzie Richard Doyle, Division Director, Macquarie Bank Michael Wiener, Director Operations, Perenia Arek Sinanian, National Technical Executive, Climate Change Garth Taylor, Trade Commissioner for ASEAN, Austrade. Robert Purves, Chairman Environment Business Australia, member of the Copenhagen Climate Council Dr Tony Beck, Chairman, Asia-Pacific Emissions Trading Forum Matthew Skoien, Senior Director, Queensland Government Office of Climate Change The Hon Greg Combet AM MP, Minister Assisting the Minister for Climate Change Robert Hill, Australian Carbon Trust; former Australian Environment Minister Seb Henbest, Manager, Australia, New Energy Finance Geoff Pollard, Book Leader, Emissions & Power, BP Singapore It is time to identify all those who are working 24/7 to advertise, promote, trade cheap forest carbon credits helping polluters to avoid emissions reduction efforts. You will see them talking, giving keynotes, and presentation in all “expo carbon events” of REDD project shopping malls. I will start with the Aussie fellows:
Brett Janissen, Executive Director, AETF
Geoff Leeper, Deputy Secretary, Australian Climate Change Regulatory Authority (ACCRA) Group, Australian Government
Ilona Millar, Senior Associate, Baker & McKenzie
Richard Doyle, Division Director, Macquarie Bank
Martijn Wilder, Partner, Baker & McKenzie
Richard Doyle, Division Director, Macquarie Bank
Michael Wiener, Director Operations, Perenia
Arek Sinanian, National Technical Executive, Climate Change
Garth Taylor, Trade Commissioner for ASEAN, Austrade.
Robert Purves, Chairman Environment Business Australia, member of the Copenhagen Climate Council
Dr Tony Beck, Chairman, Asia-Pacific Emissions Trading Forum
Matthew Skoien, Senior Director, Queensland Government Office of Climate Change
The Hon Greg Combet AM MP, Minister Assisting the Minister for Climate Change
Robert Hill, Australian Carbon Trust; former Australian Environment Minister
Seb Henbest, Manager, Australia, New Energy Finance
Geoff Pollard, Book Leader, Emissions & Power, BP Singapore

]]> By: Nenek Kincai http://www.redd-monitor.org/2010/03/11/redd-project-in-sumatra-slammed-by-friends-of-the-earth-indonesia-and-australia/#comment-16076 Nenek Kincai Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:59:22 +0000 http://www.redd-monitor.org/?p=4301#comment-16076 Before making emotive statements such as the above, perhaps it would have been better for you all to have talked to the many indigenous people in jambi who resent the loss and degradation of their traditional forest lands ...a good REDD program almost by definition will respect both indigenous people's dependence upon INTACT forest as well as the carbon and biodiversity values. Jambi, in particular western Jambi, has lost huge areas of forest to incomers and large companies with subsequent massive impacts upon local people and their environment who have historically respected and carefully used their forest estate without flattening it. I and my colleagues, most of whom come from forest edge communities in western Jambi believe that a good and well designed REDD program, whether or not it reduces global carbon emissions, has a potential to support sustainable use of forest and secure the rights of villagers to receive their traditional environmental services (clean water, access to NTFP, a safe environment free of floods or, in the dry season, loss or irrigation, guarantee their PLTA (village micro hydros powered by water protected by upriver forest)rather than its destruction for short term economic benefit. Before making emotive statements such as the above, perhaps it would have been better for you all to have talked to the many indigenous people in jambi who resent the loss and degradation of their traditional forest lands …a good REDD program almost by definition will respect both indigenous people’s dependence upon INTACT forest as well as the carbon and biodiversity values. Jambi, in particular western Jambi, has lost huge areas of forest to incomers and large companies with subsequent massive impacts upon local people and their environment who have historically respected and carefully used their forest estate without flattening it.
I and my colleagues, most of whom come from forest edge communities in western Jambi believe that a good and well designed REDD program, whether or not it reduces global carbon emissions, has a potential to support sustainable use of forest and secure the rights of villagers to receive their traditional environmental services (clean water, access to NTFP, a safe environment free of floods or, in the dry season, loss or irrigation, guarantee their PLTA (village micro hydros powered by water protected by upriver forest)rather than its destruction for short term economic benefit.

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