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	<title>Comments on: Injustice on the carbon frontier in Guaraqueçaba, Brazil</title>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/11/06/injustice-on-the-carbon-frontier-in-guaraquecaba-brazil/#comment-31026</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that there are many problems with this perspective of REDD. First, as Michelle pointed out- it is HOW the REDD project is implemented that is the issue. There are many REDD projects out there and some of them do incorporate local and indigenous people&#039;s rights and interests into account in the development of the projects. If they don&#039;t, we should speak out and promote better business practices but we should not just abandon REDD. 

GM and other big corporations are going to keep polluting regardless of REDD. At least they are putting there money somewhere that minorly mitigates their damage. If your problem is their pollution, then lobby for climate change laws, but again, REDD is not an either/or to stopping emissions. 

Moreover, REDD CAN creates the opportunities for forest communities to benefit from the sustainable lifestyles they lead. While the TNC project clearly has issues, it is not without advantages to the communities. They directly employ 45 local people.They have supported  the establishment of local honey businesses, organic banana growers, ecotourism operations, and women-run t-shirt and handicraft cooperatives. Besides creating local jobs and income, the project also supported the construction of an Environmental Education Center, which has already served to inform more than 8,000 visitors about the importance of Atlantic Forest Conservation and carbon removal.  Maybe this is not enough, but it is worth mentioning. AND the organizations are not just handing over useless $$$ as has been suggested.

REDD has real potential and to demonize it because of improper implementation is (in my opinion) narrow-minded, unrealistic and counterproductive. There is no one solution to climate change. So instead of pushing REDD projects and organizations away, lets build coalitions and act as a check to ensure that REDD programs are being implemented in a way that advantages to local communities AND the environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that there are many problems with this perspective of REDD. First, as Michelle pointed out- it is HOW the REDD project is implemented that is the issue. There are many REDD projects out there and some of them do incorporate local and indigenous people&#8217;s rights and interests into account in the development of the projects. If they don&#8217;t, we should speak out and promote better business practices but we should not just abandon REDD. </p>
<p>GM and other big corporations are going to keep polluting regardless of REDD. At least they are putting there money somewhere that minorly mitigates their damage. If your problem is their pollution, then lobby for climate change laws, but again, REDD is not an either/or to stopping emissions. </p>
<p>Moreover, REDD CAN creates the opportunities for forest communities to benefit from the sustainable lifestyles they lead. While the TNC project clearly has issues, it is not without advantages to the communities. They directly employ 45 local people.They have supported  the establishment of local honey businesses, organic banana growers, ecotourism operations, and women-run t-shirt and handicraft cooperatives. Besides creating local jobs and income, the project also supported the construction of an Environmental Education Center, which has already served to inform more than 8,000 visitors about the importance of Atlantic Forest Conservation and carbon removal.  Maybe this is not enough, but it is worth mentioning. AND the organizations are not just handing over useless $$$ as has been suggested.</p>
<p>REDD has real potential and to demonize it because of improper implementation is (in my opinion) narrow-minded, unrealistic and counterproductive. There is no one solution to climate change. So instead of pushing REDD projects and organizations away, lets build coalitions and act as a check to ensure that REDD programs are being implemented in a way that advantages to local communities AND the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya Zeriga-ALONE</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/11/06/injustice-on-the-carbon-frontier-in-guaraquecaba-brazil/#comment-8134</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya Zeriga-ALONE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is REDD the solution for mitigating climate change? It does not make sense to keep polluting in the north and hope that REDD in the south will save the day. The solution as I see it would be for developed countries to consciously cut down on their emission. A family of 2 don&#039;t need 2 vehicles in the garage, a family of 2 do not need a 6 bedroom house, the double decker airbus - is that a need? 

To stop people from the south from degrading their forests to get timber for their houses and canoes, and firewood. The north can subsidise solar power kits,  wind mills, steel for building houses that will not need to be replaced for a long time.   

Numerous studies have shown that people in the south do not know how to deal with money, apart from fulfilling their immediate needs, what is a villager going to do with the proposed millions $$$ from carbon financing? - more money leads to social problems, drunkenness, domestic violence, increased robberies, prostitution, STD and HIV. Let the north provide the ammunition (money) and let the south kill themselves and we can save the forests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is REDD the solution for mitigating climate change? It does not make sense to keep polluting in the north and hope that REDD in the south will save the day. The solution as I see it would be for developed countries to consciously cut down on their emission. A family of 2 don&#8217;t need 2 vehicles in the garage, a family of 2 do not need a 6 bedroom house, the double decker airbus &#8211; is that a need? </p>
<p>To stop people from the south from degrading their forests to get timber for their houses and canoes, and firewood. The north can subsidise solar power kits,  wind mills, steel for building houses that will not need to be replaced for a long time.   </p>
<p>Numerous studies have shown that people in the south do not know how to deal with money, apart from fulfilling their immediate needs, what is a villager going to do with the proposed millions $$$ from carbon financing? &#8211; more money leads to social problems, drunkenness, domestic violence, increased robberies, prostitution, STD and HIV. Let the north provide the ammunition (money) and let the south kill themselves and we can save the forests.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/11/06/injustice-on-the-carbon-frontier-in-guaraquecaba-brazil/#comment-8041</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Participatory&#039; measures such as PRA will be ineffective so long as the incentives for sequestration are driven by the exigencies of a global carbon market, multinational corporations, and their allies in environmental organizations.

When REDD arrives in places where the poor have few enforceable claims to land and little political voice, we should not be surprised that it exacerbates poverty and marginalization. More worrisome is that REDD may drive the retraction of forest rights in places where the poor have long struggled to have them recognized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Participatory&#8217; measures such as PRA will be ineffective so long as the incentives for sequestration are driven by the exigencies of a global carbon market, multinational corporations, and their allies in environmental organizations.</p>
<p>When REDD arrives in places where the poor have few enforceable claims to land and little political voice, we should not be surprised that it exacerbates poverty and marginalization. More worrisome is that REDD may drive the retraction of forest rights in places where the poor have long struggled to have them recognized.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Salviati</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/11/06/injustice-on-the-carbon-frontier-in-guaraquecaba-brazil/#comment-8038</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Salviati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with Mrs. Braga on this - locals must be included in the project. That&#039;s the reason we need/have PRA and other methodologies to investigate locals&#039; needs and perceptions on the project.
But, we need to know how TNC is going to respond this facts showed by Mr. Schapiro.
As far as I know TNC-Brasil, I don&#039;t think they had this incautious action on this project, ie, do not consider locals within the project.
Thus, let&#039;s wait TNC&#039;s feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with Mrs. Braga on this &#8211; locals must be included in the project. That&#8217;s the reason we need/have PRA and other methodologies to investigate locals&#8217; needs and perceptions on the project.<br />
But, we need to know how TNC is going to respond this facts showed by Mr. Schapiro.<br />
As far as I know TNC-Brasil, I don&#8217;t think they had this incautious action on this project, ie, do not consider locals within the project.<br />
Thus, let&#8217;s wait TNC&#8217;s feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Braga</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/11/06/injustice-on-the-carbon-frontier-in-guaraquecaba-brazil/#comment-8029</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Braga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problems is how this REDD project has been implemented. The villagers should have been incorporated to the project, not excluded!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problems is how this REDD project has been implemented. The villagers should have been incorporated to the project, not excluded!</p>
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