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		<title>By: Chris Lang</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/10/22/carbon-scam-the-noel-kempff-project-in-bolivia/comment-page-1/#comment-7643</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In its &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ienearth.org/REDD/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent report about REDD&lt;/a&gt;, the Indigenous Environmental Network makes the following comment about the Noel Kempff project:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Noel Kempff is the largest REDD pilot project in the world is a 30 year “partnership” on indigenous land with oil giants British Petroleum and Amoco[1] which coincidentally are participating in “the biggest global warming crime in history”[2] and violate Indigenous Peoples’ rights in  Tibet,[3] Sudan,[4] Canada[5] and the United States[6]. BP has also benefited from a regime of paramilitary terror in Colombia[7] and is implicated in a coup d’etat in Azerbaijan.[8] Other partners include the biggest coal burner in the U.S., American Electric Power (which depends on coal and uranium mining[9] that have devastated native lands and health[10]) and PacfiCorp and The Nature Conservancy. The Nature Conservancy says that REDD is more important than cutting emissions.[11] REDD could be the cheapest way[12] for these polluting companies to buy permits to pollute. Cheap carbon credits from REDD could allow climate criminals to continue to destroy the earth and her peoples.   

[1]“Through a unique partnership, the Government of Bolivia, the Friends of Nature Foundation (FAN), The Nature Conservancy and three energy companies (American Electric Power, PacifiCorp and BP Amoco) have teamed up to jointly implement the US $11 million Noel Kempff Mercado Climate Action Project--the largest forest based carbon project in the world.”  http://www.noelkempff.com/English/Welcome.htm The contract is for 30 years. See TIME: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1864302,00.html
[2]The Independent: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/the-biggest-environmental-crime-in-history-764102.html
[3]Corpwatch: “BP challenged to get out of Tibet”  http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=1291
[4] Los Angeles Times: “slavery and genocide in Sudan”  http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/01/news/mn-36342
[5] The Globe: “a form of genocide” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/not-really-a-green-country-any-more/article1277258/b PBS: Extreme Oil – Athabasca Tar Sands http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/homestead/2005-February/003987.html The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/23/london-tar-sands-climate-protest 
[6]Greenpeace: Inupiat Eskimos sue BP http://archive.greenpeace.org/pressreleases/arctic/1999oct21.html
[7] The Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bp-pays-out-millions-to-colombian-farmers-408816.html
[8]  BP and Amoco behind Coup http://www.muslimedia.com/archives/world00/azer-bp.htm
[9] American Electric Power gets 66% of its energy from coal and 6% from nuclear power. See Fuel Diversity graph on p.4 of its 2008 Annual Report http://www.aep.com/investors/annrep/08annrep/AepAnnRpt2008.pdf  AEP is also an aggressive proponent of the oxymoron “clean” coal and the highly dangerous false solution to climate change called Carbon Capture and Storage http://www.aep.com/environmental/climatechange/carboncapture/
[10] Indigenous Environmental Network http://www.ienearth.org/mining.html See video Dine’ Grandmothers resist relocation to radioactive lands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbrcTzawbec&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eienearth%2Eorg%2Fmining%2Ehtml&amp;feature=player_embedded
[11] The Nature Conservancy: Forest offsets more important than emissions reduction targets http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/06/05/the-nature-conservancy-forest-offsets-more-important-than-emissions-reduction-targets/
[12] The Economist:: “Companies would then buy cheap credits and continue doing business as usual rather than cutting their own emissions.” http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13829421&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In its <a href="http://www.ienearth.org/REDD/index.html" rel="nofollow">recent report about REDD</a>, the Indigenous Environmental Network makes the following comment about the Noel Kempff project:</p>
<blockquote><p>Noel Kempff is the largest REDD pilot project in the world is a 30 year “partnership” on indigenous land with oil giants British Petroleum and Amoco[1] which coincidentally are participating in “the biggest global warming crime in history”[2] and violate Indigenous Peoples’ rights in  Tibet,[3] Sudan,[4] Canada[5] and the United States[6]. BP has also benefited from a regime of paramilitary terror in Colombia[7] and is implicated in a coup d’etat in Azerbaijan.[8] Other partners include the biggest coal burner in the U.S., American Electric Power (which depends on coal and uranium mining[9] that have devastated native lands and health[10]) and PacfiCorp and The Nature Conservancy. The Nature Conservancy says that REDD is more important than cutting emissions.[11] REDD could be the cheapest way[12] for these polluting companies to buy permits to pollute. Cheap carbon credits from REDD could allow climate criminals to continue to destroy the earth and her peoples.   </p>
<p>[1]“Through a unique partnership, the Government of Bolivia, the Friends of Nature Foundation (FAN), The Nature Conservancy and three energy companies (American Electric Power, PacifiCorp and BP Amoco) have teamed up to jointly implement the US $11 million Noel Kempff Mercado Climate Action Project&#8211;the largest forest based carbon project in the world.”  <a href="http://www.noelkempff.com/English/Welcome.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.noelkempff.com/English/Welcome.htm</a> The contract is for 30 years. See TIME: <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1864302,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1864302,00.html</a><br />
[2]The Independent: <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/the-biggest-environmental-crime-in-history-764102.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/the-biggest-environmental-crime-in-history-764102.html</a><br />
[3]Corpwatch: “BP challenged to get out of Tibet”  <a href="http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=1291" rel="nofollow">http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=1291</a><br />
[4] Los Angeles Times: “slavery and genocide in Sudan”  <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/01/news/mn-36342" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/01/news/mn-36342</a><br />
[5] The Globe: “a form of genocide” <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/not-really-a-green-country-any-more/article1277258/b" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/not-really-a-green-country-any-more/article1277258/b</a> PBS: Extreme Oil – Athabasca Tar Sands <a href="http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/homestead/2005-February/003987.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/homestead/2005-February/003987.html</a> The Guardian <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/23/london-tar-sands-climate-protest" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/23/london-tar-sands-climate-protest</a><br />
[6]Greenpeace: Inupiat Eskimos sue BP <a href="http://archive.greenpeace.org/pressreleases/arctic/1999oct21.html" rel="nofollow">http://archive.greenpeace.org/pressreleases/arctic/1999oct21.html</a><br />
[7] The Independent <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bp-pays-out-millions-to-colombian-farmers-408816.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bp-pays-out-millions-to-colombian-farmers-408816.html</a><br />
[8]  BP and Amoco behind Coup <a href="http://www.muslimedia.com/archives/world00/azer-bp.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.muslimedia.com/archives/world00/azer-bp.htm</a><br />
[9] American Electric Power gets 66% of its energy from coal and 6% from nuclear power. See Fuel Diversity graph on p.4 of its 2008 Annual Report <a href="http://www.aep.com/investors/annrep/08annrep/AepAnnRpt2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aep.com/investors/annrep/08annrep/AepAnnRpt2008.pdf</a>  AEP is also an aggressive proponent of the oxymoron “clean” coal and the highly dangerous false solution to climate change called Carbon Capture and Storage <a href="http://www.aep.com/environmental/climatechange/carboncapture/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aep.com/environmental/climatechange/carboncapture/</a><br />
[10] Indigenous Environmental Network <a href="http://www.ienearth.org/mining.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ienearth.org/mining.html</a> See video Dine’ Grandmothers resist relocation to radioactive lands <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbrcTzawbec&#038;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eienearth%2Eorg%2Fmining%2Ehtml&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbrcTzawbec&#038;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eienearth%2Eorg%2Fmining%2Ehtml&#038;feature=player_embedded</a><br />
[11] The Nature Conservancy: Forest offsets more important than emissions reduction targets <a href="http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/06/05/the-nature-conservancy-forest-offsets-more-important-than-emissions-reduction-targets/" rel="nofollow">http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/06/05/the-nature-conservancy-forest-offsets-more-important-than-emissions-reduction-targets/</a><br />
[12] The Economist:: “Companies would then buy cheap credits and continue doing business as usual rather than cutting their own emissions.” <a href="http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13829421" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13829421</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/10/22/carbon-scam-the-noel-kempff-project-in-bolivia/comment-page-1/#comment-7640</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hy Juergen,

RED-NM-001 / Version 01

http://www.communitycarbonforestry.org/BioCarbon%20Fund-REDD_Mosaic_Methodology.pdf

Citation: Brown, S. F. Achard, R. de Fries, G. Grassi, N. Harris, M. Herold, D. Molicone, D. Pandey, T. Pearson, and D. Shoch, 2007b. Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Deforestation and Degradation in Developing Countries: a Sourcebook of Methods and Procedures for Monitoring, Measuring and Reporting.



http://www.climate-standards.org/projects/files/tocantins/ccba_pdd_tocantins_redd_v_1.pdf

All the best my good friend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hy Juergen,</p>
<p>RED-NM-001 / Version 01</p>
<p><a href="http://www.communitycarbonforestry.org/BioCarbon%20Fund-REDD_Mosaic_Methodology.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.communitycarbonforestry.org/BioCarbon%20Fund-REDD_Mosaic_Methodology.pdf</a></p>
<p>Citation: Brown, S. F. Achard, R. de Fries, G. Grassi, N. Harris, M. Herold, D. Molicone, D. Pandey, T. Pearson, and D. Shoch, 2007b. Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Deforestation and Degradation in Developing Countries: a Sourcebook of Methods and Procedures for Monitoring, Measuring and Reporting.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climate-standards.org/projects/files/tocantins/ccba_pdd_tocantins_redd_v_1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.climate-standards.org/projects/files/tocantins/ccba_pdd_tocantins_redd_v_1.pdf</a></p>
<p>All the best my good friend</p>
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		<title>By: Juergen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo

Can you please provide a full reference or link to the &#039;Brown S et al, 2007&#039; paper that you mention above?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo</p>
<p>Can you please provide a full reference or link to the &#8216;Brown S et al, 2007&#8242; paper that you mention above?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/10/22/carbon-scam-the-noel-kempff-project-in-bolivia/comment-page-1/#comment-7603</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hy Natalia... Excuse me...

Just one note, 
According with Brown, S. et al. (2007) , the following rule of thumb suggestion is:
• For projects above 100,000 ha, the reference region should be about 5-7 times larger than the project area.
• For projects below 100,000 ha, the reference region should be 20-40 times the size of the project area.

So in the noel project... the driver of deforastation and environmental pressure could not be considered taking the reference zone smaller than it was supposed to be... so it&#039;s make the carbon amount get high...

And another think is leakage is big issue in redd projects...

we both know that even the leakage belt is fucking huge this will not be enough to support the human pressure... because 10 years before a Redd project is necessary to RE EDucate the actors of each reagion...

My best regards
my pleasure to know you
keep on touch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hy Natalia&#8230; Excuse me&#8230;</p>
<p>Just one note,<br />
According with Brown, S. et al. (2007) , the following rule of thumb suggestion is:<br />
• For projects above 100,000 ha, the reference region should be about 5-7 times larger than the project area.<br />
• For projects below 100,000 ha, the reference region should be 20-40 times the size of the project area.</p>
<p>So in the noel project&#8230; the driver of deforastation and environmental pressure could not be considered taking the reference zone smaller than it was supposed to be&#8230; so it&#8217;s make the carbon amount get high&#8230;</p>
<p>And another think is leakage is big issue in redd projects&#8230;</p>
<p>we both know that even the leakage belt is fucking huge this will not be enough to support the human pressure&#8230; because 10 years before a Redd project is necessary to RE EDucate the actors of each reagion&#8230;</p>
<p>My best regards<br />
my pleasure to know you<br />
keep on touch</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/10/22/carbon-scam-the-noel-kempff-project-in-bolivia/comment-page-1/#comment-7602</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congratulations
Lang...

What&#039;s true is true...

even the government say no we no that it&#039;s is TRUE...


All the best my good friend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congratulations<br />
Lang&#8230;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s true is true&#8230;</p>
<p>even the government say no we no that it&#8217;s is TRUE&#8230;</p>
<p>All the best my good friend</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Calderón</title>
		<link>http://www.redd-monitor.org/2009/10/22/carbon-scam-the-noel-kempff-project-in-bolivia/comment-page-1/#comment-7570</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Calderón</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting even the NKCAP basics and its methodologies wrong this report only proofs that Greenpeace is lacking the professional and technical skills to deal with REDD.  Those of you who are interested in getting the facts right than being brain-washed by anti-offset propaganda might have a look at FAN´s statement on the Greenpeace “report”:

 http://www.fan-bo.org/en/noticia221009.php

Natalia Calderón Angeleri
Coordinator Climate Change and Environmental Services Department
FAN Bolivia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting even the NKCAP basics and its methodologies wrong this report only proofs that Greenpeace is lacking the professional and technical skills to deal with REDD.  Those of you who are interested in getting the facts right than being brain-washed by anti-offset propaganda might have a look at FAN´s statement on the Greenpeace “report”:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.fan-bo.org/en/noticia221009.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.fan-bo.org/en/noticia221009.php</a></p>
<p>Natalia Calderón Angeleri<br />
Coordinator Climate Change and Environmental Services Department<br />
FAN Bolivia</p>
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